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Old 12-03-2012, 01:39 PM

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I had started this thread on another forum about a projection I am starting on...

Similar a Phoenix from the ashes, I am working to recreate the S&West Mk 22 Mod 0 Hush Puppy pistol used past the SEALs during Vietnam and throughout the 1970s. So far, I possess a complete slide assembly for a 39 series pistol, which has the brusque extractor, four" barrel, and the rear sight with "wings." That is where things are right now in hand physically...

What I have done so far is to create PDF mechanical drawings for the following parts:

Front end Sight - http://world wide web.artisanccw.com/images/mk22mod0frontsight.pdf. The offset forepart sight is existence made currently. Installing the new forepart sight requires the existing front end sight be milled entirely away. And I just learned the gent working of the front sight will accept pics for me of said item later on today!!!

Faux Mk 3 Suppressor - http://world wide web.artisanccw.com/images/mk3can.pdf. The faux Mk 3 suppressor has been totally designed and will exist made come next May. Earlier going also far with this unit of measurement though, I saw a "grit cover" in a picture of a Hush Puppy with the can attached, which is on this post as well. A "suitable sub" for the "dust cover" was found and is on its way. Once I have that role in hand, I volition once more modify my drawing to comprise the "grit embrace," thus finalizing the drawing for the simulated can...

Rear Sight "Fly" & Top Screw - http://www.artisanccw.com/images/mk22mod0rearsight.pdf. This function is also in a prototype manufacturing stage. The longer superlative screw is in process as well. I will also annotation Dockery is WRONG with regard to the use of a Model 52 rear sight with the Mk 22. The confines of the rear sight "wings" will Not permit for windage adjustment for the rear sight, as the 52'south rear sight windage blade is MUCH larger than the sight used on the Mk 22...

Barrel - Later an extensive search online, I believe I have constitute a custom barrel maker who can make the 5" extended, threaded barrel needed. By stroke of luck, said person owns a 39-ii...

The book I am using as reference is Special Warfare, Special Weapons by Kevin Dockery, his first book on SEAL weaponry. (I had bought his 2d book on SEAL Weaponry for a cheap toll, simply gave information technology away because it was merely an "updating" of the get-go book and it contained the very same errors within the outset book as well...) I do admit there was some errors in the book, notably for the section on the Mk 22 Mod 0 about the threading pitch for the butt to spiral on the Mk 3 can. Folio 34 claims the pitch was 1/two" - xx tpi, while the text on the very next page stated ane/2" - 32tpi. With the barrel I volition have made early next year, the maker and I had already determined to use i/2" - 28tpi, today's standard threading for a 9mm suppressed sidearm...

Once I get my grimy mitts on a real 39 pistol, I will be able to rapidly reverse engineer the double-sided slide lock. I am having a contend in my mind right now though if the actual Hush Puppy slide lock was also a slide concur open up. I am questioning this based upon an image taken from an former book on military weaponry. Please meet the fastened paradigm of the disassembled slide lock for further details...

Additionally, I am continuing to study images of the Hush Puppy and I just learned i affair: this pistol could NOT take been made based on the original Model 39...

Why?

With the original Model 39, if you lot expect at the opening for the slide agree open, the top of the opening is kind of like a "ski gradient," in that there are iii small curves that course a kind of "hill" in the contour. With every image I have found and have seen of the Hush Puppy, that same surface area is but a slanted straight line, hence it can just exist either the 39-1 or 39-2 as the ground for the pistol.Production of the all steel 39 ended in 1966, over a yr before the contract was signed to produce the Hush Puppy. This should too lead to one to deduct the Hush Puppy DID, in fact, have an aluminum alloy frame, since the 39-1 introduced said feature and the shorter extractor in 1965, while (I believe) the 39-two brought well-nigh an even smaller extractor in 1967. Due south&Westward used upward their inventory of parts when transitioning between the 39-1 & 39-two. It appears at that place was some overlap of production with the two models...

This is all I have currently. I shall keep folks updated as new things come to the fore...

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I am but documenting my discoveries of this historic and fascinating military handgun. Please email me at dvelleux@ameritech.net before y'all do anything with this thread...

PLEASE????


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Folks,

The gent making the image front end sight just completed it and sent me a few pics, which I combined into i image!!! This is Not bad news!!!

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Information technology sounds like an interesting projection simply some of your info is slightly off as Due south&Westward never made a 39-i. In the belatedly 1950s, S&Westward started experimenting with 39s chambered in .38 AMU for the Army'due south Marksmanship Training Unit. The .38 AMU was substantially a modified .38 Special case made to function better in magazines and to avoid confusion with the 39 they concluded up calling information technology the Model 52A.

On your picture with the four slides, the eye two appear to be 39-2 and the bottom one is a 439. Y'all can tell the 439 by the dissimilar sights and the brusk extractor which appeared on the early on 439s.

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I have had this one for many years now

BTW, why a faux suppressor? Just file a form-1 and build a working tin.

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BTW, why a faux suppressor? Just file a form-one and build a working tin.

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Not allowed in the Illinois Democratic Republic...

Your profile does not include your location.

I am quite familiar with IL laws. I was born and raised in Chicago. Firearms rights is a major part of why Florida was called for relocation.

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It sounds like an interesting project just some of your info is slightly off as S&W never made a 39-1. In the late 1950s, S&W started experimenting with 39s chambered in .38 AMU for the Army'due south Marksmanship Training Unit of measurement. The .38 AMU was substantially a modified .38 Special case made to function better in magazines and to avoid confusion with the 39 they ended up calling it the Model 52A.

On your film with the four slides, the middle two announced to be 39-2 and the lesser i is a 439. You lot can tell the 439 by the different sights and the brusque extractor which appeared on the early on 439s.

From another thread:

"The wide short extractor was one of the recommendations made by our range folks along with a few other modifications. Our range people worked very closely with Due south&Westward for a lot of years on various modifications which ultimately resulted in the 3rd gen autos.

Near of our 39-nothing were converted over to the wide curt extractor. Might have been a some early 39-cypher that were issued and and so bought by retirees before being converted. The i pictured below is the i I was issued. You will run across on the acme of the slide an indent for the roll pin which holds the extractor in place. Yours has the same roll pin. The older long extractors did non have that roll pin in that location."

I plant the consummate slide for sale online listed equally a 39-2. Now given the to a higher place and what you said, I am confused. On my slide, the extractor does NOT have a curlicue pin, nor whatsoever type of pin holding information technology in the slide. I found a few schematics online showing the extractor that mode and the drawing was listed as a 39-two. Can you lot point me in another direction? TIA...

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Your contour does not include your location.

I am quite familiar with IL laws. I was born and raised in Chicago. Firearms rights is a major function of why Florida was called for relocation.

I TRULY wish I can join you lot down in the South...

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Your listed quote in thread #seven is referring to a modification of a 39 no dash extractor, none of yoyr photos depict that particular extractor, and it is true there never was a mkdel 39-1, your pictures clearly show a model 39, so a model 39-2, then finally an early 439 or 539 slide, with the short extractor that was simply used on early second gens, they went back to a dash ii manner extractor not too long later on second gen production started....the slide yous take was simply mis-identified by the person you lot acquired it from, it has a firing pin safety and is not readily compatible with a showtime gen frame (39 or 39-ii).....great project, sounds similar you lot've done some practiced hush puppy research, just do a little more research on the first and 2nd gen 39s and y'all should have all the info yous need to complete it....

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So far, I possess a complete slide assembly for a 39 series pistol, which has the short extractor, 4" barrel, and the rear sight with "wings."

It sounds like yous have a 439 slide to me. Does it look like the bottom slide in the forth picture in a higher place?

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Forgot to mention the slide notch you talked about went through a few variations in shape during the 39 series production, the function did not change, just the appearance, they all work the same, and yep, the Mk22 model 0 was based on the 39, and from what I have read near them, the later on versions used a frame very similar to a model 59, giving it the fourteen round capacity.....

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Folks,

Okay, so given the info stated previously, every Hush Puppy was a 39-ii, with alloy frame and a narrow, curt extractor. That fact may NOT be such a bad thing, since nearly of the 39-2s used the "lollipop" style rear sight. To create a dovetail for the rear sight "wings," cloth volition need to be added on to the slide, and so shaped to match the rounded pinnacle contour of the slide, prior to milling the dovetail itself...

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Actually, all 39 and 39-2s used the lollipop, the "winged" rear sight did non appear until the introduction of the 2d gens, 439,539,639, etc. And I believe the hush puppies were BASED on the model 39, and later were apparently built on a 59 style frame.....from the hush puppy photos I have seen, your all-time bet would be to use a later second gen adjustable sight slide with the dash ii style extractor, you would have to eliminate the firing pin rubber though, but yous would have the correct type of milled out area for a taller winged rear sight....


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I've looked through the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson third Edition (yous should get this if you don't already have information technology) and the Smith & Wesson Handguns 2002 Special Collectors Editon publication and here's some more data for you.

Both publications say that the Marker 22 Model 0 as adopted by the Navy was a 14 shot pistol......not 8 shot similar the 39. Per the Smith & Wesson Handguns 2002 Special Collectors Editon, in 1968 later examining image loftier capacity Model 39s, the Navy ordered suppressed, 14 circular, black finished STAINLESS STEEL guns.......this 14 circular concept eventually became the Model 59, which appeared in 1971. The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson says these guns were 14 circular but lists them as alloy frame and steel slide......over again, very like to what was to become the Model 59.

The Smith & Wesson Handguns 2002 Special Collectors Editon shows a nice picture (see below) of what they call a "rare single stack version based on the Model 39 and the 14 round double stack contract version". The rare single stack Model 39 pictured has a series number of A123334 which falls into the Model 39-ii timeframe. This gun also has "MK 22 Modernistic 0" stamped below the SN on the left side of the frame. The double stack gun's SN is partially obscured only appears to exist a "T" followed by numbers which could indicate a Tool Room gun.

With that all said, it appears that while in that location were a few (peradventure prototypes) single stack, Model 39-2 based Marker 22 Model 0 Hushpuppys, the actual Navy contract for 200 units were 14 round double stack pistols more than similar the Model 59.

Promise this helps. Nothing incorrect with building a clone on a Model 39-ii frame, in fact I'd probably prefer the slimmer single stack grip profile.


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ceremonious, I have read this too, but about pictures I have seen are of the single stack type, I take only seen a couple of pics of the double stack variety, information technology would be nice to go someone on the forum with commencement hand knowledge of these models....I exercise believe both versions are displayed in a museum, just can' t remember which museum.....


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grif,

I had those images before, but when I blew them upwards to see the details of the writing on the slide's left side, the words "Air Organization Gun" are the entire 2nd line of the markings. And later looking at that movie again, the top line reads "Model 39 S&West."

The first volume by Kevin Dockery on SEAL weaponry did discuss a bit about the 14 shot versions. Dockery stated basically because of the way S&W had its product lines set up, it took xviii months to deliver 12 pistols...


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ceremonious, et al.,

I recall there may be errors in S&Due west's books. The Hush Puppy was an 8 shot pistol. Any later changes which resulted in the 59 came a keen deal afterward...

Kevin Dockery'south books have errors as well, such the thread pitch for the barrel for the tin can In his first volume, Dockery claims ane/2"-20tpi on Folio 34, then on Folio 35, he states i/2"-32tpi. Additionally, he claims the rear sight used on the Hush Puppy was the rear sight of a 52. However, the rear blade of the 52 sight is unable to fit inside the confines of the "wings," hence that too is an mistake. And for his 2nd book, he and/or the publisher did Non even bother to correct the errors prior to publishing the book...

While we are discussing details, please look at the second image below of the slide lock unit. From what I can discern, the slide hold open up "lever" to office with the mag appears to non even exist, hence the pistol would Non cause the slide to lock back when the terminal shot was fired. Are we in agreement on that indicate?

Sidebar: does anyone have an idea where to buy black plastic 39 grips that have the logo and the checkering, simply without an faux wood grain?


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There is no reason for a magazine actuated slide lock, the slide does not bicycle when fired, it is locked in bombardment.....


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I managed to buy nearly a complete 39-2 (sans frame) pistol off an online site. Since it is a true 39-2 slide, I will need to have the lollipop cutout welded over and a dovetail cut...

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Folks,

More than GREAT news!!! Attached below are two images of the very first 3 prototype rear sight "wings" prior to bending!!!

Once they become bent and sent to me, I will MOST DEFINITELY post farther pics...

I just got up and this already fabricated my day get-go off right...

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Interesting project merely it appears to me yous've got a mix of good and bad information well-nigh the originals. Do you accept the article Dockery did for The Pocket-sized Arms Review in June 2002? What most Dwayne Charron's new book (discussed elsewhere on this forum)? Are you lot going to replicate the accessory kit with muzzle and breach plugs? I think I can help with some of this if you desire to e-mail me at kevin at kwill dot com.

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Kevin,

Any and all help is appreciated. I emailed yous...

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Folks,

My attention has now turned to the rear sight itself. While some online gun parts site may have these sights, I am non also throilled at our possibilities...

Whatever ideas? TIA...

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Folks,

I started talking with kwill, who is a WEALTH of noesis. He brought upward the point of the various plugs used with the Mk 22. I then thought about an A Zoom aluminum or a black plastic snap cap, which would then take to accept a minor, shallow slot milled into information technology to allow a prophylactic O-ring sit properly in...

The question now becomes where can ane find an item that can be used as a cage plug for the Mk 22 butt and/or the chamber plug for the imitation Mk 3 suppressor which volition be made...

Inquiring minds want to know. TIA,,,

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Folks,

Again, based on input past kwill, I contacted S&W via email and they said one can social club parts by calling 800-331-0852 ext.4125 directly. kwill stated the Third Generation rear sight for the 5906 is precisely the same sight and visual verification confirms that...

Additionally, delight look at the attached image of an exact copy of an Mk 22 Mod 0 made for a retiring S&West employee, which now resides in the S&West Museum. If one looks VERY carefully at where the slide lock cut is, one can encounter the lock cut is merely a elementary triangular cutting completely through the side of the slide, both left and correct. And the slide lock is nothing but mostly straight cuts, so duplicating it should be unproblematic, though I am going to Actually think about whether the extended level on the left side should in fact be a second slice of steel to reduce manufacturing costs...


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What exactly is the deal with the barrel bushing, information technology definately looks like it's either not present, or a blazon similar to the later fixed bushing is used....

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grif,

In the image above, I am in aggreement the bushing is Not at that place, hence at that place had to be something to both support the barrel at the muzzle and to restrain the recoil spring guide...

And I think I found out what information technology is by looking at an paradigm of an airsoft copy. Look at the fastened epitome. It appears the web of steel between the butt opening and the recoil spring guide opening had a "effigy eight"-like slice of steel argent soldered in place to both support the front of the barrel and to hold the recoil spring guide under tension...

And Now I need to design yet another component...


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The slide itself will capture the recoil spring (later model 39-2s anyway) merely to me information technology does appear to exist a smaller round pressed in bushing, similar the third gens....

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Yous are indeed right for the recoil spring guide and spring that the slide itself volition restrain/contain it all, so here's an idea to take the needed bushing without pressing ane in place: Just have a spare bushing, mill off the external portion of the bushing, insert said newly-milled bushing and turn information technology into its final position, and so silverish solder the thing in place. BINGO!!! That works perfectly!!!


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At that place is just ane issue with that, y'all won't be able to install or remove the barrel with the bushing permanently stock-still. Afterwards fixed bushing pistols have the butt cease relieved to accomadate this feature....

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There is just 1 issue with that, yous won't be able to install or remove the barrel with the bushing permanently stock-still. Later stock-still bushing pistols have the barrel end relieved to accomodate this feature....

*Tries this with a slide, butt and bushing*

Point validated. I remember the internal length of the bushing is what the event is...

If the bushing was shortened from BOTH ends to just be a "nub" in the muzzle stop of the slide to back up the barrel, that should allow the extended barrel to exist moved forrard, then tilted upward and out of the slide...

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Took the shortened bushing out of my chopped 39, put it in a dash 2 slide, and was able to install 3 unlike dash 2 barrels, 2 of which are new and never used, with the bushing in place, looks like your theory is right, it does work.....

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That is Great news!!! Thank y'all for trying my theory out...

Adjacent question for you: is the Mki 22 Modern 0'due south terminate blued or a black parkerizing?


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Folks,

Based on a proffer past kwill, I constitute the patent drawing from Dwayne Charron for the noncombatant version of the Hush Puppy's rear sight. It is interesting to note how S&W was able to take a few pieces of the Mk 22 Mod 0 program and bring them into product lines for themselves...


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No-dash 39s were also used for early Mk22s.

The -2 engineering modify happened in roughly 1971, merely the Mk22 had been issued several years earlier.

Edit: In rereading your opening mail service, it appears that y'all're calling the models between the phase out of the steel frames and the 39-2 a 39-1. Most of the 39 no dash production was alloy framed. Steel frames weren't common. Don't equate the bug you lot're seeing in the steel frames with the alloy frames of the no-nuance.

I suspect there was a fleck of refitting practical to early pistols later, but the fact that teams were receiving 45 pistols in FY1968 suggests that for most of Vietnam, it was no-dash slides in the most part.


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Folks,

Thanks to the resourcefulness of kwill, I am presenting for your indulgence the patent drawings and documentation for the Mk 3 Modern 0 suppressor, the "tin can" used on the Mk 22 Modern 0...

I have already designed a fake can. I only take to reconfigure the front end to allow a lens cap to snap in place to simulate the watertight cover that suppressor had...

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Folks,

Quick update: I am about to kickoff working on the near difficult part of the Hush Puppy system, the slide lock. It is a complex piece that has parts that operate on both side of the slide, PLUS information technology has to exist able to hold the slide back...

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Notation: What I am about to write may be heresy to some and dangerous to others, but in the interests of full and complete accurateness and authenticity, I shall postal service this info. KIDS!!! Practice NOT Endeavour THIS AT HOME UNLESS Yous ARE SUPERVISED BY A PARENT OR GUARDIAN!!! (Okay, legal disclaimer over...)

With the original Mk 22 Modernistic 0, the Navy had them modified to not have a magazine condom, nor would the slide mounted safety drop the hammer, while however protecting the firing pin. Afterward speaking with a knowledgable expert, he told me the following to duplicate what the Navy had done:

1 - To disable the mag disconnect, i must offset remove the rear sight from the 39-2 slide, then remove the ejector depressor plunger and ejector depressor plunger leap, then reinstall the rear sight. The ejector has a spring under it to keep it in position for ejection...

two - To allow for putting the pistol on safe while NOT dropping the hammer, delight beginning wait at the fastened prototype. This is the sear release lever. The area highlighted in white must exist removed. In operation, the tiptop portion of the lever is pushed down by the safe and in turn pushes down the disconnector, disabling the trigger. The highlighted area pushes the sear abroad from the hammer, causing it to drib. So later on removing this function from the frame, amputating the bottom "leg," then reinstalling information technology in the frame, the safety volition work only on the firing pin to protect it and non drop the hammer...

For my Hush Puppy, I will be performing these two tasks, only I shall Not land everyone should. PROCEED AT YOUR Ain RISK!!!

More updates will follow before long...


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Folks,

GREAT NEWS!!! Another member of this forum did the modernistic for the sear release lever on his 59. Guess what?

Information technology WORKED!!! Please review the fastened image...

So while I volition practise this mod on my 39-2, I will again state doing this mod is up to an individual owner's discretion...but it DOES make things more authentic!!!

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Folks,

I am PLEASED to report another success on the path to a Rebirth of the Mk 22 Modernistic 0!!!

Attached below is a dual side-past-side image of how a 39-2 slide looks once the front sight has been milled away and two small holes drilled for installing pins, which will mate with the new Hush Puppy extended height front sight, which is shown being in position prior to silver soldering...

Merry Christmas, y'all!!!

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Folks,

Is there a kind soul in the northeast Illinois area who owns a 39-ii or 39? I would similar to examine said pistol (since I have not bought one withal), so I can proceed piece of work on the slide lock for the Hush Puppy replica. This is pretty much the last matter that needs to exist done...

Cheers in advance...

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HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE!!!

To continue moving forward, I am well-nigh to reconnect with a custom barrel maker in North Carolina about custom 5" threaded barrels. Just, in the issue this fails, I feel a barrel sleeve volition work. Anyone know of gunsmiths anywhere in the country willing to practise such sleeving work? TIA...

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Hi Dave,while searching the silencer forums,i institute a thread nearly a visitor called "Hooper Ordnance" who have done threaded barrel sleeves in the by for customers for their model 39 pistols that turned out great.

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I�ve been watching your build with involvement. In an earlier postal service you stated the Mk 22 Mod 0 rear sight was the same as on the 2nd and tertiary generation pistols.

If so, how does the standard 2d/3rd generation rear sight recoup for the much, much taller front sight? I take a 559 and I don�t see any style a shooter could actually zero the pistol with a stock rear and the Mk 22 Mod 0 alpine forepart sight. Not enough travel.

I call up the Mk 22 Mod 0 rear is taller. Look at the position of the locating pivot in the side of the protective �ear�. Looks to be located much farther up than a stock sight. I suspect the �ears� are also taller.

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Welcome to this addiction, my friend...

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I've been watching your build with involvement. In an before mail service you stated the Mk 22 Mod 0 rear sight was the aforementioned as on the 2d and 3rd generation pistols.

If and so, how does the standard 2nd/3rd generation rear sight compensate for the much, much taller front sight? I take a 559 and I don't run into whatever way a shooter could actually nothing the pistol with a stock rear and the Mk 22 Mod 0 tall front sight. Not plenty travel.

I think the Mk 22 Modernistic 0 rear is taller. Await at the position of the locating pin in the side of the protective "ear". Looks to be located much farther up than a stock sight. I suspect the "ears" are besides taller.

Y'all ARE correct in stating the rear sight "wings" are higher in height than the conventional wings are. What I was referring (I humbly beg your apologies...) is the bodily rear sight body within the wings. I previously posted a PDF re-create of the patent drawings as honour to Dwayne Chirron for that sight. The Just truly different part is the elevation screw, which is much taller than the standard screw...

I am trying to determine how to most cost-finer recreate the 5" threaded barrel for the Hush Puppy. Whether a butt sleeve, a threaded barrel extension, or an entirely new butt is the point under word at present...


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Is there any reason one of the 5inch PC barrels for the 952/PPC9/3566/IDPA 5906 would non fit? I practise not know if information technology would be the most cost effective and I have never measured the OD of my 559 barrel against one of my PC pistols only they are probably close. The PC still stocks the 5inch barrels. I have re-barreled two of my PC pistols and I think the full price was less than 250. Would be much less since you lot only need the barrel.

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Is there whatsoever reason one of the 5inch PC barrels for the 952/PPC9/3566/IDPA 5906 would not fit? I do not know if it would exist the most cost constructive and I accept never measured the OD of my 559 barrel against ane of my PC pistols but they are probably close. The PC even so stocks the 5inch barrels. I have re-barreled two of my PC pistols and I call back the total toll was less than 250. Would be much less since you only need the butt.

I will wait into this thought subsequently this calendar week...

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AZ,

I received an email from Due south&W regarding those 5" barrels in a 39 or 39-two. They said no way...

Back to the drawing board...


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AZ, et al.,

Based on the lack of communication with the custom barrelmaker, it has been decided to use a threaded butt extension to lengthen the butt to 5"...

More details shortly...

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Folks,

Based on the decision to go with a threaded butt extension, I have attached a PDF copy of the cartoon to this mail...

Yes, I am disappointed to accept to go this road, but given the fact no ane wishes to make a true 5" threaded butt for the 39 series, nosotros are "stuck" going this route...

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